Where do you want me to start? I got my copy of the complete guide and all my little sister books. Do you want me to start with the clients first? Just get the information on the page first and then organize it?
Wherever you want to start is fine with me, I care more about making sure that the information that is added follows certain formatting rules and is relatively organized along with the rest of the information in the wiki. If certain pages/categories etc. are added and not formatted right away, the mistake/lack of consistency will remain there a long time because I won't remember it's there.
I don't expect you to remember or know all the formatting rules, but check out the edits I make to pages after you have edited them and you might be able to see that I repeatedly make similar sorts of edits. (and I will emphasize, many of these formatting rules are influenced by general wiki rules and from using other wikis as examples, not just my opinion).
I understand that you may work differently than I would, and I'm relatively fine with kind of boring a paragraphs with choppy sentences that just state the facts, because that kind of thing can be relatively easily cleaned up. However, I am a fan of putting information under headings if there is quite a lot of it (if there isn't a lot of information, I would rather just have a 2 sentence paragraph).
Some rules I try to follow:
• The first sentence about a character/school/place etc. should emphasize why it is important to the series or main characters. If someone googles something BSC-related and comes across a page, they should be able to understand that page's relation to the series without reading the whole article (and without having read the BSC series). For characters, that mainly includes age, relation to the main BSC members (such as sibling, parent, love interest, BSC charge, SMS student) or to Karen Brewer or that they are in Ms. Colman's class. It can also include any meta-info about the character in the series that may confuse a casual viewer (such as two characters with a similar name). More detailed info, including personality traits, should be in a separate heading (usually 'Bio'). For schools, the first sentence should say who (generally) in the BSC/BLS series goes there. For locations, the first sentence should say what city it is in and if in Stoneybrook/Stamford what role it generally plays in the series. The first sentence should ideally be clear, specific and well-written.
•The name of the person/page is bolded the first time it is used. Any alternative names are also bolded.
•The first time a person or important thing (such as a school), or a book, is mentioned, the wiki page should be linked if it exists. (If you have a long bulleted list you don't necessarily have to do this, but if you want to, it is good to do). The first time a person is mentioned their last name should be included. The idea is that someone reading the page after randomly googling may not know that information. Books can be italicized after the first mention. Other pages should generally not be linked two or more times within a page, unless it's a long article and the other page is linked at the beginning and toward the end of an article (in this case multiple linking is actively encouraged).
• Outside of bulleted lists and tables, use complete sentences.
• In an infobox, if any info links to pages (such as a family member or school attended) it should be linked, regardless of the content in the main article.
• This wiki uses present tense in most cases. The exception might be if (for instance) you are writing about book #111 and referring to something that happened in book #55, then you would use past tense to emphasize that it happened before the "current" of the article. Also if the character is deceased.
• Each page should ideally link to similar relevant pages somewhere in the article. For any given person, their page should link to the pages of all their family members who have pages. If they go to a school, that should be linked. Often these pages are linked in the first or second sentence.
If any of the above is confusing, feel free to ask me to clarify.
Also, I don't know how you usually edit, but (except for tables) I almost always prefer to use the "Source" tab of the classic editor. This also me to see the wiki code so I know exactly what I am publishing. I can also see spelling mistakes that are underlined in red. I can also see things like this:
[[Snow War|Snow War.]]
and I clean it up to look like this:
Commas, periods, apostrophes, etc. should not be linked. The easiest way to ensure this is to use the Classic editor.
One thing I really want someone to do is to write more book summaries, because I don't intend to do that (I am mostly interested in uploading images and figuring out publishing info). The client/charge pages do need some cleanup and ideally they would be the same format for everything (Some pages are of the format 'The Rodowskys' vs. 'Rodowskys" vs. 'Rodowsky' etc). That is definitely something I've been vaguely meaning to do. Right now I have two categories I have been using that are relevant, 'BSC Charges' and 'BSC Clients'. To me a 'BSC Charge' is a child while a 'BSC Client' is a parent or family. I know the existing categories don't 100% reflect that idea though.
Would you mind if I help out on the charge front? I don't have any of my books on me but I can easily get my little sister books from my parents house (they're easier to carry) and copy things over from the complete guide. I have an idea of how the page could be set up if you don't mind me sharing it.
I like what you did so far! It seems to be a lot less messy. I personally don't really write/edit the character articles unless someone adds something inaccurate or ridiculous. But I can tell the articles need a lot of work, so I am glad for anyone to clean them up.
For the infobox, I could make a separate one for characters in general but I think you could probably use the same one that's being used for the BSC members: Template:InfoboxBSC. Obviously "joined" and "left" and "Title" don't apply to non-BSC members but the rest of the categories do.
The Complete Guide is such a great resource for this wiki. Of course it was published in 1996 so it is missing some things from books published afterwards but in general it is very useful. I wish openlibrary had scanned it so I could more easily access the info but alas.
(By the way, if you don't know, openlibrary.org is a great resource where you can check out books online and the books are scanned directly from the published books, so you can see the book as it was originally published. They have a ton of BSC and Little Sister books so it's always a great place to fact-check or use to write/edit articles if you don't have the physical books.)
Great I'm glad to be helping while I can and help edit the articles then.
Figured maybe we could have a template just for charges, one for the families, and then one general one for characters (there could be something different for each). I did try the BSC template on Hannie and Charlotte's page if you think that it looks okay I'll just keep using that. But I'd like to see what you think.
I'll see if I can get my copy from my parents house or maybe they could bring it to me. That's really need about openlibrary, I need to look into that for some other books that I'd like to reread again.
Sorry correction on the template, we just have one for general characters that's the same for like Cokie and Charlotte.
I have an idea how to make a family page like for The Addisons that I edited to make it more streamlined.
Some thoughts about article formatting now that I am thinking about it more: I would prefer that most character articles have this basic format:
1. Intro 1-2 sentences explaining age and relation to main BSC characters (or Karen Brewer or Ms. Colman). Basically, if you googled this character, found the wiki page and knew very little about the BSC franchise, would you have a basic idea of where they fit in from the first sentence?
2. Bio ideally of at least three paragraphs explaining basic personality traits and history
3. Various subsections on trivia/whatever else.
Most of the better written wiki articles on FANDOM will follow this format to some extent. As a reader, I would prefer to read several paragraphs about a character rather than a bunch of bullet points, unless the info is best presented that way (for instance, book appearances is best done this way). Also, I wouldn't put general character traits or experiences in the trivia section, if they could be put into the main bio. For trivia I would usually only put info that doesn't fit anywhere else, and info that spans the whole series or is a meta commentary on how the character is written, for instance. (i.e. plot holes, comparing this character to another, this character was inspired by someone in Ann Martin's life, this character changed in x way from the books to the graphic novel, etc).
A wiki I am familiar with whose format I like is the Goosebumps wiki, for example this character article: https://goosebumps.fandom.com/wiki/Evan_Ross The character has a several paragraph bio, and the rest of the information is neat and organized. The bullet points are for trivia and book appearances. If you have never read a Goosebumps book, you understand where this character fits in. The BSC wiki doesn't have to look exactly like that and we can have more subsections but I think it's good to have that in mind as far as formatting and readability go.
I have my kids in Ms. Colman Class books and found that a history would be pretty slim pickings there's not a lot to work with in that department. Traits wouldn't be that hard to get into a paragraph or two although if I get my hands on my LS books a history might be more do able.
What I was trying to do was take all the notes and put it on the pages and then organize it right after but it looks you already cleaned most of it up (sorry should have been doing that as I was writing it).
I'm not sure what time zone you're in so i"m sorry if this is really late!
Obviously for many of the Colman class characters there is not a lot of information, but an article can still be written about the character by (for instance) just summarizing what happens to them in a particular book. The biography can just be a few paragraphs where each paragraph is a short summary of what happened with them over several different books and that is how a lot of bios of minor characters are done. The bio you did for Terri Barken looks good to me for instance.
Oh and it's not really a big deal to be "late" on a wiki like this - personally I log in once every day or two, and I don't always have the energy to do more complicated edits or comments.
This is going to sound like a stupid question but when I transcribe the offical guide there's abbriviations like SS for super special or M for mystery. I'd like to just copy it over exactly like that without having to look up the books each time. Would that be okay?
Okay, and I replaced it because I found a better image on the GraphixBooks twitter account. Obviously high quality images can't be found for everything but in cases where higher quality images can be found, I will use those to replace lower quality images on this wiki. (and anyone else can do this as well).
To become an admin, it's not really an exact process with specific rules, but in general:
- create an account rather than just using your IP address
- make a lot of good quality edits over an extended period of time
- show an understanding of wiki style and rules, and an ability to improve your competence in these areas over time. Understanding wiki rules/formatting etc. is more probably more important that the exact content you add or what your opinions about the series are, but those are important on some level too.
- If you accidentally mess up formatting while editing, please correct it within a reasonable amount of time
- display a reasonable amount of maturity
You can still do most things you would want to do without being an admin, but as an admin you can block people, delete pages or images, and rename pages. However, if you are not an admin you can ask an admin to do these things.
Every time a user edits a page, they are automatically signed up to follow that page unless they specifically unfollow it. So I am "following" every page I've edited, with the exception of pages I've unchecked which I do from time to time.